Well that was interesting to watch. Friends of the site, Zeus Comics and Variants recently had a very lengthy discussion on Twitter. Full links to each Tweet are at the very end of this article, but lets review. Richard Neal, owner of Zeus Comics and co-creator of the Variants web series confronted Chris Hardwick, creator of all things Nerdist, over the new Nerdist YouTube series, NerdTerns.
Richard felt that NerdTerns is a little too close in concept and plot to the last three years of the Variants. Some of these may just be coincidences. It could just be that crazy thing that happens in human evolution in which two groups unrelated to each other come up with the same idea at the same time. The airplane. A summer volcano movie. However, there is also evidence that some people who work for Nerdist were aware of the Variants.
First there is this picture:
Then Richard has submitted the show for the Nerdist company to consider carrying multiple times. To no response. Is NerdTerns the response?
Keli of the Variants and her horrible boyfriend plot:
Compare to Jenny’s Ex:
Again, we are not accusing Chris Hardwick or Nerdist of anything. However, there were numerous times in which someone within the Nerdist company would have become aware of the Variants and then this similar show comes along.
How similar:
Main cast of four, with one woman.
Takes place within a comic book store.
Story arc of the female employee getting put down by her partner only for the staff to come to her aid.
Aloof dancing lead male.
Snapping someone back to reality with a squirt gun.
and with three seasons of The Variants to pull from there will be even more coincidences to come.
I know, some of you may be thinking that this is just the way of scripted entertainment. That there will be similarities. Even @Nerdist himself said, “look at Comic Book Men”!
Saying that Comic Book Men is similar just because it takes place in a comic book store is like saying Storage Wars and Sanford and Son are similar because they both involve people buying junk. Or Scrubs and ER because they are both set in a hospital. Two different genres of shows.
If NerdTerns response is that lots of shows take place in comic book stores and lots of sitcoms have these story ideas then that is all the more reason for them to do something else. ”Lots of shows do it” is the same as, this has been done. Be more original.
Again, I like the Nerdist company. There are some great podcasts, the BBC America shows are fun, and many of the web shows are weekly favorites. Aint It Cool, Four Points, Nerdist Bowling are all great. But Variants has been around for three years (before Comic Book Men as well) and they have not been hiding.
Any product has to defend their property each and every time they feel it has been marginalized. If not, then that one time it really needs to be done will also be the time a court allows it because the IP had not previously been defended.
We support Zeus Comics and The Variants. We enjoy the Nerdist products. And we look forward to NerdTerns growing as a show and becoming a completely original voice.
All the original tweets are linked under the Read More bar.
(Apologies for the length of these. With each new post Twitter posts the previous ones as well. But I wanted everything there in full context.)
@nerdist if we knew you were looking for content for @NerdistChannel, I would totally given you another @variants DVD.—
Richard Neal (@zeuscomics) September 24, 2012
@zeuscomics thanks! but they’re our actual interns. They pitched, produced, wrote, directed and starred in the show.—
Chris Hardwick (@nerdist) September 24, 2012
@nerdist We've worked really hard on @variants. And We're not connected to LA. It's hard to see a concept so identical take flight.—
Richard Neal (@zeuscomics) September 24, 2012
@zeuscomics Not sure you're suggesting, but I had NOTHING to do with the idea or creation of this show, and our interns aren't aware of you.—
Chris Hardwick (@nerdist) September 24, 2012
@zeuscomics for anyone who works in a store, it's not a huge leap to make to do a show about it. I'm sorry! (though I didn't do anything)—
Chris Hardwick (@nerdist) September 24, 2012
@zeuscomics Not to mention I've never seen @variants myself. Apologies! You know about Comic Book Men, right? That's another one.—
Chris Hardwick (@nerdist) September 24, 2012
@nerdist Start with Season Three. We figured out a lot of things @nerdternsshow is struggling with. We also successfully Kickstarted it.—
Richard Neal (@zeuscomics) September 24, 2012
@nerdist You get a lot of things at Stand-ups. I gave you a @variants DVD.—
Richard Neal (@zeuscomics) September 24, 2012
@nerdist yes. I've watch @ComicBookMenAMC. We parody them in our current episode "Dicks on Comics"—
Richard Neal (@zeuscomics) September 24, 2012
@nerdist We've worked really hard on @variants. And We're not connected to LA. It's hard to see a concept so identical take flight.—
Richard Neal (@zeuscomics) September 24, 2012
@zeuscomics I'm sorry man! Please forgive me for not having watched it! When was that?—
Chris Hardwick (@nerdist) September 24, 2012
@TheLos @zeuscomics @ThatKevinSmith agreed! there are probably even more that none of us know about.—
Chris Hardwick (@nerdist) September 24, 2012
@zeuscomics No reason you should stop doing it though! I'll give it a watch.—
Chris Hardwick (@nerdist) September 24, 2012
@zeuscomics Not to mention I've never seen @variants myself. Apologies! You know about Comic Book Men, right? That's another one.—
Chris Hardwick (@nerdist) September 24, 2012
@zeuscomics for anyone who works in a store, it's not a huge leap to make to do a show about it. I'm sorry! (though I didn't do anything)—
Chris Hardwick (@nerdist) September 24, 2012
@zeuscomics Not sure you're suggesting, but I had NOTHING to do with the idea or creation of this show, and our interns aren't aware of you.—
Chris Hardwick (@nerdist) September 24, 2012
@nerdist We've worked really hard on @variants. And We're not connected to LA. It's hard to see a concept so identical take flight.—
Richard Neal (@zeuscomics) September 24, 2012
@nerdist I've watched several start up shows about shops since @variants began.. Yours is way similar on plots & concepts to @variants.—
Richard Neal (@zeuscomics) September 24, 2012
@zeuscomics Ok…once again…I didn't have anything to do with the writing or creation of the show. It was pitched to me by our interns.—
Chris Hardwick (@nerdist) September 24, 2012
@zeuscomics I've never stolen ANYTHING in my life and I really don't appreciate the insinuation. At all.—
Chris Hardwick (@nerdist) September 24, 2012
@nerdist It was a Dallas stop. twitpic.com/38fq1a @RobertKirkman is our pull quote on the DVD.—
Richard Neal (@zeuscomics) September 24, 2012
@zeuscomics That was 2 years ago. Is it that hard to believe that I may not remember it? Certainly not intentional! Just a long time ago.—
Chris Hardwick (@nerdist) September 24, 2012
@nerdist I'm not suggesting that. However watching three years of my work unfold in two episodes of @nerdternsshow was frustrating.—
Richard Neal (@zeuscomics) September 24, 2012
@zeuscomics Again, I have little to do w/ the creative on that show other than approving scripts. Ask @NerdternsShow if you have concerns.—
Chris Hardwick (@nerdist) September 24, 2012
@zeuscomics you don't have to accuse people of things when you get mad, sir. It's just as unfair to me as you think it is to you.—
Chris Hardwick (@nerdist) September 24, 2012
@zeuscomics I'll double check w/ our interns & if they even remotely did what you're accusing I'll pull the show. But I promise they didn't.—
Chris Hardwick (@nerdist) September 24, 2012
@zeuscomics We can assure you that we didn't hear of your show until today. We – not Chris – created, wrote, produced & directed our series.—
NerdTerns (@NerdTernsShow) September 24, 2012
